John Wubbolt wrote: > Hello Mike > I agree there are dangers to other people finding the bargains in any > type of [misidentified] fish, reproducing it and trying to sell it [under the wrong name]. Well I would hope > that anyone who was into apistos enough to want to spawn them, become > members of either the ACA or ASG or both, would have enough ware with > all to be knowledgable enough to know what they were selling. > John, Soap box time! I only wish this was true. Compare the number of people selling cichlids at stores & auctions to the 1700 (maximum) members of the ACA & ASG combined. We are certainly in the minority. I'm sure there are more people out there who are more interested in making a few bucks than learning anything about their fish. I find this more true of breeders of other cichlid groups than with dwarf cichlid keepers, thank Goodness. Still, as dwarf cichlids become more popular, the "fad" hobbyists will pop into this section of the hobby. I feel this is what has happened with Rift Lake cichlids. Just compare the two ACA pubs (Buntbarsche Bulletin & the Trading Post. The profit part of the hobby (TP) is 80% Rift Lake cichlids while the study part (BB) is only 30% Rift Lake articles and many of these are reprints from non-U.S. publications. I feel that the cause is due to the high prices expected for Rift Lake Cichlids by both the suppliers & buyers. This is not all bad. At least you can find a source of all but the newest and rarest species most of the time. Still, too many hobbyists now look at their rift lakers as money machines rather than the group of fascinating fish that they are. Our local cichlid club is running into this problem, too. They have 200 member but only 10-20 ever come to meetings other than the 2 public auctions held each year. Those that do come have come to the conclusion that the reason for this is strictly monetary. At auctions members of the club receive 80% of the auction split while non-members only receive 50%. It seems that too many of their "members" feel it is well worth the $15 to have a membership to increase their profits by 30%. This club is thinking of requiring active attendance at normal general meetings in order for members to receive their 80% split. If they do this, I wonder how many members they will lose. CRASH! Ouch! I just fell off my soap box. It must be time to shut my mouth. Mike Wise > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!