Scoot, Thanks for your words. Indeed I myself have waxed poetic on the list about Ocean Aquarium when others have asked about a good Apisto spot in the Bay Area. For me it goes beyond fish even (but then I suppose every aspect of our love for things aquatic does so). It is so wonderful to find a place that epitomizes true passion elevated to an art in this time of homogenizing market forces. I suppose Apisto themselves represent a kind of endless variety and wondrous locally adapted complexity to some of us. Maybe that is part of the attraction. (Sorry for the undisciplined rambling). Recently Justin had A. macmasteri and A. bitaeniata (but only good males of each) too. I have not seen the A. nijsseni there, but have seen a variety of the others. I will mention, since some on the list are in constant search of P. taeniatus, that he has Nigerian green right now, as well as quite a few Nigerian red that were raised in the store. In regard to my aggies, I was considering siphoning out the new brood, but I suppose I will leave them for now. All my tanks are very heavily planted; that is the way I prefer it. There is lots of cover for all. When the kids get larger I will take your advice and move the parents. This is in fact what I did with the mom of my A. sp rotkeil (after she unfortunately beat up the father). That brood is growing up quite nicely in a heavily planted tank. -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!