Kathy (Erik), What does Erik use as a Ca/MgCo3 source-- I have the same problem with the plants in my 90 gallon. I recently tried using oyster shells, but I ended up with water with a pH of 7.5 and GH-4 KH 3. My goal is to keep the pH acidic and slightly increase the alkalinity and general hardness while still keeping the tanks suitable for SA dwarfs. Cheers, Cory ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Cc: <Apisto@admin.listbox.com> Sent: February 13, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: Re: checking water parameters > John, > > Hi, we noticed this with Seattle water as well. Soft water, tap pH close > to 7 (high 6's)but drops rapidly depending on what is in the > tank (ie Bogwood, oak > leaves etc.). ppm is about 10-20. > In the summer the water parameters change....the water is harder, and a > little more alkaline. Discovered this doing some routine checking oh two > or so years ago. We figured it was because the water sat around in the > resevoir in the summer, but was more likely direct rain runoff in the > winter. Someone else had it much rougher, moved 25 minutes across > town...they don't keep discuss anymore. > > But back to the point, yes we notice a seasonal variation. I haven't run > into problems with the apisto's. Now in Erik's high light grow out > tank....the plants turned white when the calcium dropped too low. So he > adds Calcium Carbonate and Magnesium carbonate....makes me shudder every > time....but he spawned the wild caught tetra's we brought back from the > Rio Negro.....so it still works. There must be something else in that > clean water that triggers the spawning. Oh yeah...in my tanks....the > snails loose their shells...especially noticeable right now. I have had > one big snail I was saving for a friends puffer for over a year, he is an > inch in size, but I have stepped up water changes now, and he just lost > his shell and became apisto food. > > Enough rambling... > > Kathy > > > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, John Wubbolt wrote: > > > > Well my point here is, sorry for going on and on, that i always thought > > my tap water was a pH of 7.0 and 60 ppm hardness. Of course the last > > time i checked it was during the summer months before i moved. I only > > moved 1.5 miles down the road and was on the same town water system so I > > didn't think it would have changed. But then realizing that our town > > water actually comes from the local Raquette River and run through a > > water filtration plant, I didn't take into account that water in the > > winter might have different make up then the water in the summer dry > > months would have. > > > > So I guess from now on i'll have to check my water more often. > > Question here for everyone? Can water get too soft for apistos and can > > it be too acidic for them? I know with water like this with no > > buffering capabilities, it can drift down pretty quick in planted tanks. > > I've been getting quite a few spawns lately and wasn't sure if it was > > due to water conditions or me doing better water changes then during the > > summer time. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. With water > > like this i should be keeping more discus then I already do. Anyone > > looking for great water, there's lots of places for rent in town!!!! > > > > John > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!