I'll join in on the survey, and boy oh boy am I enjoying the fantasies of a book by Mike Wise thread. As a teacher who is new to Apisto keeping, I believe Mike is an amazing teacher. I had a pair of A. sp rotkeil (uapesia) (segelflossen...thanks, Kathy, for teaching me that one) that bred, so I am raising their progeny. One pair of A. agassizii (red-gold) with fry One pair of A. viejita Two M. altispinosa. On the recent thread of fishroom tours, while the thread was going on, I was in Seattle and got a tour of a wonderful fishroom of an active participant in the list. I learned a great deal from it (see above) and was inspired to sit down and actually start reading more seriously Mayland and Bork, etc. BTW, the translation leaves something to be desired. I hope the translation for which we are all waiting is better. I still remember Professor Weimar (yes, that was truly his name) being sure we paid proper respect to the translator as we read Goethe. -Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!