Mike wise wrote: .....I feel that Uwe's photo is slightly 'enhanced'. Note the violet cast on the white part of the tail. It's possible that a magenta filter was put over the flash or something like that..... Photographs in every case always lie. This is down to a whole barrel load of factors, I will try to cover two. Colour Temperature: Each light source has a different and usually variable colour temperature, which dynamically the human eye automatically adjusts its 'white balance' too (noon daylight is relatively blue, tungsten bulb light is tannin yellow, and fluorescent light anywhere between turquoise to magenta). Most video/digital cameras now have an automatic white balance, which will digitally adjust the relative colour temperature balance. Film however has a fixed layer structure of colour filters that are set for either an optimum "daylight" or "tungsten" colour balance. Traditionally, this is compensated for by the use of a colour temperature meter and a set of compensatory filters - this is a black art comparable to balancing pH, unskilled use of additive filters can lead to horrific results. Minor colour balance correction can be accomplished when prints are made (by a skilled hand printer), but with slide film you tend to have to get it right first time. The colour temperature of the light source is also affected by anything it is passing through, this is probably accentuated in our case most by waters rich in tannins, so we have a brown filter between the light source, the subject, and then film. And we are presuming that the glass of the tank is having a neutral colour filtering affect - which is not generally true. The colour temperature can also be affected by any subject it is reflected off; plants, gravel, a thin coat of algae on the sides an back of the tank etc.. As Mike pointed out it looks like Uwe used a Magenta filter, with fluorescent lighting (and no flash) in the photograph on http://geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7918/aggriotefe.gif. This is one of the 'standard' corrections for fluorescent lighting, but because of other colour temperature filtering, and reflection, effects this resulted in a violet colour cast to the subject. Refraction/reflection: In some fish you can see an iridescence on the body and fins as they move relative to your eye and the light source, this is caused by tiny semi-regular ridges which act like tiny prisms separating the light its individual light sequences something akin to a rainbow. However, dependant on the spacing, size and regularity of the tiny ridges the effect can be just like a rainbow, be an enhanced one colour 'tone', or can be practically unnoticeable to the naked eye. Also as this 'shimmering' effect is dependant on movement, if the fish is static relative to the eye and light source the shimmering/iridescent effect is not visible and is only seen as one colour, as only one sequence of the light enters your eye. These latter two points come to a head if a flash is used on the subject. This 'goes off and on' at a relatively fast speed, far faster than the sync shutter speed of your camera, and relatively freezes the subject relative to the camera and the light source. The intensity of the light from the flash also is far in excess of any natural light the fish would be subject to, and this intensity is amplifies any iridescent light sequence coming relative to the ordinary reflected light from the fish. This effect can be best observed on Dieter Bork's pictures on the Krib http://www.thekrib.com/Apisto/mayland-book.html. I think I'll now augment Mikes mantra: Colour photos should not be used in apisto IDs...;-) Scot ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http: //academy.star.co.uk/public/virustats.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!