Gary said: >Nature culls randomly and only Pokemon evolve the way they're >expected to. Great line. The main reason I went down the route of common or garden domestic kribs, was that they were obviously grossly inbred, however they are on the otherhand fairly robust. Oh, and I don't have to worry about locating specific "vars/morphs" to preserve the line purity of the strain. So my best guess at the time was the worst I could produce would be equal to the standard LFS fair. The culling aspect I would also go with you on. I personally never kill anything unless it is deformed, or would not survive. Anything else which doesn't "make the grade" gets to live on in a community tank for the rest of their days. Wild type rams are something I've always wanted to get hold of, but alas I've only once found some which looked "convincing" and were healthy, then the bio filter crashed.... Scot ________________________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Star Screening System http://academy.star.co.uk/public/virustats.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!