I can't help noting that outsiders would view our anxiety about the fact that a two inch fish is breathing hard to be very strange. It cries out for a "take two vallium" and call me in the morning kind of response. Having said that, I confess that I have been worried when I observed similar behavior. Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!