The plot thickens! Whatever my fish had they were visible out of the anus of the fish. In my tank they were introduced with a single pair of A.cacatuoides. In a short time it seemed that virtually all the fish were infected in the tank so I do not think they require a specific intermediate host. In my book, A Complete Guide to Fish Diseases by G. Schubert it says: "Camallanus. This worm lives in the posterier end of the fish rectum. In some species the deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anus by several mm when the fish is still, but as soon as the fish begins to move the worms quickly slip back inside.......... Since Camallanus is livebearing, it's very small larvae can, with the aid of a microscope, be observed in newly discharged feces. Fishes that are severely affected suffer from emaciation and frequently curvature of the spine." On Capilliara: "The worms fix themselves to the intestinal wall and inflict considerable wounds through which parasites such as Spironucleus may easily penetrate the abdominal cavity...... Newly deposited feces will be found to contain the characteristic eggs which look as though they have been sealed with champagne corks at either end." The book suggests trichlorfon at 1.5mg/l but not all fishes tolerate this concentration. Ken. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!