I agree, some brands of bloodworms are very poor quality. Brands I have found to be consistently good are "Sally's" which is from the USA but available in the UK and Ruto which is European. Ken. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!