I agree with the "don't assume one treatment cured them" because I had a pair of kribenses in which the male died before I knew what happened, and the female had the worms <filiments> out her anus. I treated with CLOUT, which the pet store informed me had dog dewormer in it. I suppose if you can't get levamisole you could try that. It says to treat three days and then clean the tank and replace the filter materials <thats not all, so follow the directions> So I did that. I thought she was better, because there were no more worms..but she then turned on her babies and killed half of them, and eventually I had to Gabriella's email that she probably still had worms and that I should have done another treatment. You live, you learn ;) And now I have a new pair with fry, getting ready to make some more fry ;) Good luck with the worms.. most pet stores will look at you like you're insane :P Susan > >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:29:34 -0400 >From: "gkadar" <gkadar@idirect.ca> >Subject: Re: apisto with intestinal worms > >Simon, > >Ken Laidlaw's offer of levamisole is right on. These are livebearer worms >and in all likelihood the've infected the other fish in your tank as well. >It'll be only a matter of time before you see them hanging out of the >others. > >They can be difficult to erradicate even with levamisole, and there are >other drugs you can use, but the margin of safety of those drugs is not >high. I'm sure Dionigi Maladorno will put in his 2 cents worth on this one. > >You should never assume that one course of treatment will do the trick. > >One of the signs of an infected fish (behaviourally) is that it acts as >though it were paranoid and gets very aggressive. It's quite possible that >the pair you purchased would have been fine together would it not be for the >worms. I guess we'd be pretty miserable if we were full of those parasites >as well. > >The thing that really gets me is that a fish, fed a 'survival only' diet at >an lfs will not show any worms. But as soon as you get it home and give it >decent sized meals, the worms pop out. I purchased a pair of wild caughts >last year about February and they'd been at the store for about 6 months. >No one wanted them. I didn't even know what species they were although I >did know that the label on the tank was wrong. Well, wouldn't you know >it......3 weeks after they started to eat a good diet, out came those worms. >Stupid me had put them in a community tank sans quarantine. Three months >later the fish in the community tank were all sick. I lost two female >borelliis because they were just too small to cope with the infestation >despite the use of medication. The larger fish came through fine. However >I had to treat the tank for a duration of 3 weeks, first every third day and >then finally in desperation, daily for three days. I could tell when the >fish were all fine because they started to eat again. > >Meanwhile the 'typhoid Marys' were quarantined as soon as I saw trouble. >They underwent treatment and after three months were placed into their own >tank. A week later what did I see? More b....y worms. Two more treatments >and they have been 'clean'. What a miserable experience. Just because >they'd 'survived' 6 months in the store with no visible sign of infestation >meant absolutely nothing. > >Gabriella ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!