In a message dated 4/24/00 4:44:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, apistowise@bewellnet.com writes: << Yes, this is absolutely true in theory, but how big does the tank need to be?. Tank size is very important when it comes to territorial fish. Römer, among others, has reported that males of some of the more polygamous species of apistos will defend a territory over 1m (40") long if given the opportunity! For those aquarists who must keep other bottom dwelling species with their apistos, they will have to put up with "inconveniences" like occasional loss of eggs/fry to predation or loss/damage of fish due to interspecific territorial aggression. For those who are interested in producing maximum numbers of apisto fry there is only one option - breeding tanks. I see no way around this problem. Of course, breeding tanks can have harmless dither fish living in the upper reaches (I prefer pencilfish). Species living on the bottom will only be considered potential fry predators and territorial interlopers. Apistos, being cichlids, will try to defend their territory/offspring. Apistos rarely kill corys, but it isn't unusual for them to take an eye out of catfish since this is about their only vulnerable spot. The choice is the hobbyists. For me, I keep my apisto pairs/trios in breeding tanks. My community tank doesn't have pairs of any territorial fish. Mike Wise David Colin Gorton wrote: > It seems to me that, so long as water requirements (pH and hardness) and > basic manners (i.e. not too much agression) are within a given range, you > can keep almost anything with anything provided that _a_ there is enough > cover and _b_ there is enough space and _c_ there is enough food. Any > comments? (How about that for opening up a forum for discussion - let's > count the flames, lol) > > Colin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <owner-apisto-outgoing@listbox.com> Received: from rly-za04.mx.aol.com (rly-za04.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.100]) by air-za01.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:44 -0400 Received: from admin.listbox.com (admin.listbox.com [208.210.124.36]) by rly-za04.mx.aol.com (v71.10) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:09 -0400 Received: by admin.listbox.com (Postfix) id CD7B72790F; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.listbox.com (Postfix, from userid 509) id C32DC2786B; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bwn.net (mail.bwn.net [216.146.128.3]) by admin.listbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2312785F for <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bewellnet.com (216-146-151-76.bwn.net [216.146.151.76]) by bwn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08542 for <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:39:58 -0600 Message-ID: <39047AE4.EB8B41CE@bewellnet.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:48:36 -0600 From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: Re: was: safe catfish. now: any suggestions?Now safe anything? References: <20000423203710.25227.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com >> This goeswith my last ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!