Pete, I'm probably going to put my foot in it again. Fish in the wild have to search for any food they may find. I'm sure there are days when there is no food at all. In the aquarium environment they have food more or less "on tap." Another factor in our tanks many species live a lot longer than they would in the wild (provided they have a good owner.) Okay I have species which have grown larger than the norm but I cannot help this if they are like me and love their food. I would think by retaining our fish same size as in the wild we would have to curtail their food. I mentioned earlier about my beefheart recipe. I reckon only 1 part is beefheart with 4-5 parts other foods. Also I said not all Apisto's like it, if they, or any of my other species don't they get other foods. Helen >Our fish attain > what I consider natural sizes with good colour. I think it's better to > allow the digestive system of a fish to work as naturally as possible. > I've seen huge fish raised on beefheart, but this is not a natural > condition. If a fish reaches 3" maximum in nature, then that's how > big I like it to get in captivity. A 5" specimen is not natural however > impressive it looks. > Pete Liptrot > Bolton Museum Aquarium > Le Mans Crescent, Bolton BL1 1SE > 01204 332200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!