While we're on the subject, is there anyone on the list who has kept and bred wild-caught altispinosa? My only experience is with tank-bred altis, and now with an extraordinarily frustrating group of wild-caught 2 spot altis. I'd love to hear from anyone who kept the 'original' fish when it first came in, just to see if it was as challenging as the 2 spot at first. The 2 spots show more geophagus-like behavior, covering the eggs with sand, but I haven't gotten them past wrigglers, and that was in close to pure rainwater. I'd like to compare notes as my fish are getting old, and I'd like to keep them going. -Gary Elson Michael Brock wrote: > > Raymond, > > I've bred them several times in a 10G, moderately planted aquarium. A coarse > sand substrate (over kitty litter if that makes a difference) w/ 30W of > standard fluorescent lighting. I used my tap water (3.5KH, 1.5 GH, pH 7.5) > w/ no conditioning (it's out of a well). Temperature about 80 degrees. A > light cycle of 11 hours. The only > filter is a single Tetra sponge filter but the aquarium is well established > and water quality is pretty good. I change about 25% every 2 weeks or so. > I've gotten two sets of healthy fry from this set-up. In this tank I've bred > them alone and w/ zebra danio dithers (which were quickly yanked when they > started devouring fry). In both instances I kept both parents in the tank > for about 2 weeks until the mother (in both cases) started treating the fry > more like tank-mates than offspring (aka light snacks). I then pulled both. > In each instance they laid their eggs on pieces of slate lying flat on the > sand. > > I've also bred them in my community tank. A 29G, heavily planted tank with > diy CO2. Lots of floating plants. My tap water (as described above) w/ a pH > of 6.5-6.8 from the CO2. Substrate is pure Flourite. 105 watts of HO > fluorescent lighting. A > Whisper C power filter, no charcoal w/ a power head for circulation. CO2 > injected into the intake of the Whisper. Temperature a little lower in this > one, in the area of 78. Lots of tetras, other M. altispinosa, SAE, etc. > Only 2 fry have ever survived this environment, despite their breeding in > there almost every 2 weeks or so. > They have laid eggs on slate and sword plants in this tank. > > I hope that helps. > > Michael Brock ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!