Hi I met a lady when I was judging a show for the Peoria, IL club who had a pair of A. agassizi which produced babies and the male died. It took her a while to find more and the four she found were very young and unsexable. She had them with the much larger female who eventually changed into a functional male who bred with one of what turned out to be 4 small females. She did write an article on her experience for their publication. Since she was working with so few fish so as to be sure she didn't mix them up; she convinced me. Tom Wojtech ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!