John Wrote: does mother nature leave a night light on, oh the moon i can hear it now, but really under all that natural vegatation in the wild do you think there is any light getting in there, i dont think so. I never leave a night light on and have no problems with mom and dad finding their fry. ______________---------______________------------------- I don't think that this is really the point. In their natural environment these fish have about an hour while the sun is setting to get their youngsters 'put to bed'. In an aquarium the light just snaps off. Also, having lived in the Tropics, I can tell you that the starlight and the moonlight are very strong. Even during rainy season there isn't the static cloud cover that we can have here. Clouds pass over an area, torrential rain comes down for 10 to 15 minutes and then the clouds are gone again for a while. It's totally different from what we experience here in North America around 40 to 44 degrees latitude. That's why one always 'walks with an umbrella' down south. One never knows when one will get dumped on and even then, it's always for tremendous but short bursts. No gentle pitter patter of raindrops that's for sure. Gabriella who never went looking for Keyhole cichlids or even guppies for the entire 2 1/2 years she spent in Trinidad. :( Lost opportunities. Did see kids netting for guppies in drainage ditches though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!