Hello from Australia Fortunately where I am has very soft water which is marvelous for breeding dwarf apistos and West Africans. However on Simon's dwarf cichlid board, we are conversing with a lady from West Michigan where the water is HARD (300ppm gH and kH) and she is trying to keep soft water, acid fish. Any suggestions as to how others may cope with liquid concrete would be greatly appreciated to pass on. Have suggested keeping Rift Lake cichlids :) Many thanks Bill Phillips ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!