Kyle, as you already mentioned, the biggest difference to raising apisto-fry is the size. Up until a week the ram-fry need something smaller than BBS, I have used vinegar-eels and Liquifry as starting foods (and introduced micro-worms and BBS after a few days) with good results. I always keep a lot of Vesicularia dubyana in those tanks as well. You should also change water more frequently than what normal apisto-fry require. Just my experiences, hope it helps. Fredrik L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!