Try visiting Uncle Ned's Fish Factory in Millis MA (40min outside Boston). They have lots of cichlids, characins, catfish, and other nice stuff - not too many apistos right now (4-5 species) but they have some Biotecus curently. Ask for Ned or Ariel (that's me - I might be working there this weekend) ariel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!