>I bought a bottle of the Amazon Extract (or whatever the exact title >of the Marc Weiss product is) a while back and have added it >occasionally to the tank. > From what everyone's saying, I think I should just stop using it. >But, do I need to consider a massive water change, or just go on as >though I'd never use it? >Are we talking just plain-ol' snake oil, or snake poison? >Stuart >-- >Stuart Hall >(sturob@swbell.net) >(gasdocstu@my-deja.com) This really is the crux of the matter. On the plants list, the lack of bottle/manufacturer information was discussed at some length and severely criticised. I often think that the plants list guys are more on the ball than any of us, not because they are more interested/expert but because they have a fixed set of parameters to work on, curled leaves?: look at calcium etc. We, on the other hand, can sometimes believe in things without necessarily having proof of its efficacy, because there are _still_ so many unknowns; vitamins, acids and extracts etc. Personally I'd go with what Eric said (he's _much_ more knowledgeable on these things) and call it 'snake oil' until someone reall has _positive_ proof of its benefits. Colin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!