I have had some experiences with this over the years. First I must say that I have never had a problem with parent raised fry. This could be because any that do not properly develop are eaten. However, I have my own theory. I think that there is often a need for physical manipulation of the fry at certain points in their development to encourage them to inflate their swim bladders. I believe that this naturally occurs as the mother mouths the fry and moves them around. In an artificaly hatching process the fry are often just left to wiggle on the bottom of the hatching vessel until the are free swimming. If there are not strong water currents moving the fry around I have found that I have the highest incidence of belly sliders. I have found a solution to be using a piece of airline tubing to pull up small amounts of hatching water which I then blow back onto the fry. This moves them around quite well. I would caution that this must be done gently. If you are too vigorous you can cause physical damage to the fry, especially torn fins that do not regrow. Finally, I would add that in my opinion it is always best to have the female care ofr the young. Only in unusual situations should you articicially hatch. Bob > > I've been e-mailing with a non-list member who is > having a consistent > > problem with his apistos. I'll post and > translate any responses for > > him. > > Fry from six species, across the apisto spectrum > have hatched into belly > > sliders, never recovering even into adulthood. I > suspect water, but I've > > never seen this in my own tanks, so I can't help > much. Has anyone else > > seen this? > > Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!