Okay- So now we are looking for some A. caetei females. Any one got some? We aren't worried about the color, as these are apparently line bred for the head features anyway. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!