Re: Opal borellii... or NOT... not!!!

["Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>]

Great detective work Raymond...........I had the right conversation but the
wrong fish.  My wife says that's the best I can ever do........;-)

Mike

Mike Jacobs
Center for Advanced Technologies
Lakewood H.S.
St Pete, Fl  33705
mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Raymond Wong <myapisto@hotmail.com>
To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Opal borellii... or NOT... not!!!


> Acutally think I know exactly what this fish is
> it looks like a borelli and is sold as one all the time
> I have some pictures on my site
> and Mike Wise ID'ed it for it
> he said
> Apistogramma caetei 'bluehead'
>
> http://members.home.net/rwmw/ahongsloi.htm
>
> here's what he said in an e=mail to me
>
> It is your unknown fish. This is a fish I haven't personally seen except
in
> pictures. I am pretty sure that it is a fish that the Germans call
Blaukopf
> (Bluehead) in Mayland & Bork's book or Steel Blue in Römer's Atlas,  and
the
> Japanese (Matuzaka, et. al.) call it New Blue. This is a domestically
> developed fish, originally coming from SE Asia. Mayland & Bork believe it
is
> part of the caetei-complex, while Römer believes it is a member of the
> resticulosa-complex. The fish shows more features of resticulosa-complex
> fish, but the head profile and tail pattern are more like caetei. Matuzaka
> believes that it is a cross between species of the two complexes. Who is
> correct?  I don't know. The fish shows none of the irregular scale pattern
> in the caudal peduncle area that most cross-bred apistos show, but the
> highly skewed sex ratio points at something not being quite natural.
Mayland
> & Bork mention that the species was established in Europe only by breeding
> domestic males with wild females. Where they got the wild females and how
> they knew they were the same species is beyond me. I bet that they used a
> caetei-complex female (who knows what species). This is bad husbandry if
you
> want to keep a species pure. It's OK if you are fixing a color pattern,
like
> in certain livebearers, but such fish should never be listed under a
> scientific name. If you like the fish and want to breed it, I'd suggest
> finding a female A. caetei and see what develops. Who knows, if crossed
with
> a "Primavera" color form of A. caetei you might get males with both a lot
of
> blue and red on the face!
>
>
> Thank You
> Raymond Wong
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