These are the pics of the A. 'neon heads' ( blue heads, blaukopf, steel heads, what ever you want to call them ) that are being sold in Australia- I got what appeared to be a male and female - these two did not last long though because they were riddled with worms. My two fish: Female ( I think ) http://petsforum.com/personal/svoorwinde/images/femaleneonhead.jpg Male http://petsforum.com/personal/svoorwinde/images/maleneonhead.jpg Pic Mike Wise sent me when I was trying to ID these fish http://petsforum.com/personal/svoorwinde/images/neonheadmw.jpg When I enquired about them I too was told that they were hybrids between borellii and something else regards, Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!