Hello thanks for the explaination Bob! wait.. i think you misread my message.. i don't have any females.. i think it's the other person.. forgot who.. but he/she said they died couple days later because of worms or parasite?!?! Acutally i'm not too sure if this helps or not.. but my LFS gets different shippments.. but their source for LFS has 2 distinct lists and the fish get shipped at different times (don't know y different times.. but)the 'blue head' he orders is on the domestic list not on the 'wild-caught list' would this be some type of evidence that they are some type of man-made strain instead of being wild caught.. but you've got to admit(okok from my point of view) the 'bluehead's' do look nice in my planted tank.... thanks Raymond Wong ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!