Hi all. A while ago someone was asking about the paper 'Crenicara punctulata is a sequential protogynous hermaphrodite'. Having got the paper recently the main point of contention that I can find with it is that no actual reproduction occured. Colour pattern was used to ascertain sex, which as we know is not a reliable guide in Cichlids. With the presence of 'sneaker' males in other Dwarf Cichlid species there is a possibility that this state could exist in Crenicara. I would have liked to have seen the experiment carried through to observation of spawning and subsequent isolation of definite females. It's a very interesting piece of work though and well worth obtaining if you haven't already. Your local library should be able to get a reprint for you. Someone else was asking about New Life Spectrum foods. I obtained some of three different grades a couple of weeks ago to try out. Some of the fine grade made it's way home to try out on my Biotodoma, Satanoperca and other fish, the rest has stayed here at work. I know it's only been a short length of time but as long as I can get a reliable source it's going to be a staple part of the diet for my fish at home from now on. The fish respond to it more eagerly than any other dry food, and even small Tetras can deal with the fine grade. So it gets my vote. Haven't tried it on Apisto's other than steindachneri, but they'd eat sawdust if it was offered. Some species won't eat dry food no matter what it is, but if they're going to eat any it'll be this. Pete Liptrot Bolton Museum Aquarium Le Mans Crescent, Bolton BL1 1SE 01204 332200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!