> I am moved to also suggest that your water > conditions may be TOO soft and acid. Nanochromis transvestitus are true "black water" fish. The water in the natural environment has a a pH of around 4 and a counductivity of less then 5 us/cm. Having spawned them several times myself I can tell you I would be inclined to look for the problemn else where. They come very soft acidic waters in nature! My two cents The Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!