Here's another source for fry food I tried this week- Find a pond with some hair algae along the shore. Swirl a finger in the algae and it should twist up like cotton candy. Squeeze the mass of algae in a bucket of aged tap water or old aquarium water, swishing it around a little. The resultant critters in your bucket can be introduced successfully for killies and cichlids. I would try it with gouramies if I had any, just to find out. Ananbantoids are definitely amongst the smallest fry I have ever had to feed, and I gave up a long time ago at trying to get them to survive. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!