Hello all Its funny that this thread comes along just as the gorgeous little pair of N anomala i picked up at the ACA had spawned for me 3 days ago. My female, barely and inch SL has taken on that nice little checker board pattern and has promptly decided that the male wasn't allowed anywhere near the group of wigglers she has. So for the safety of the male, i removed him from the tank. From previous experience with this species, i have had way too many times where the female 1/2 to 1/3 the size of the male, had beaten and killed the male in the tank. Not this time, this male has been safely removed. I have never had a pair that raised the fry together. And this is out of experience with at least 10 different pairs. So My suggestion, which differs from Mikes, is to remove that Male so long as he's still alive, Mom will do an excellent job raising those fry without pappa around. I presently have around 40+ wiggler/ fry in this clutch. Not too shabby for a first spawn from this pair.!!!! Good luck with your fry and pair. This is one species i never get tired of keeping around. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!