Randy, I agree with you, your fish looks more like A. sp. Masken than Winkelfleck. Besides your observations, your fish has a larger tail fin than does Winkelfleck. The problem I see is that 2 different fish have been exported under the name Cara pintada! Mike Wise Randy Carey wrote: > I took a few quick photos -- good close-ups are the best way to study the finer > details of a fish. A new cara pintada photo (I reduced its quality to 76K) is > temporarily at: > http://characin.com/carey/species/cichlid/apistos/00/cara-pintada_1000.jpg > > I feel that my fish identifies with Julio's masken more than with "winkelfleck." > (See his links below.) Two features associate my specimens to masken: [1] The > posterior portion of the anal fin has black markings that run perpendicular to > the fin rays. My close-up shows six such lines while I only see the four larger > ones on Julio's (but the shot is not close enough to see all this detail). [2] > On the caudal fin, the rows of curved lines (perpendicular to the fin rays) are > moderately prominent at the rear but fade as they get closer toward the caudal > peduncle. This is consistant with masken, but not with the Winkelfleck. > > Granted, the second feature is not as conclusive, but the first is. > > Also, note the horizontal streaks of red above the ventrals. I think I see faint > but similarly-positioned red spots on Julio's masken. > > I have not been keeping up with the newer Apistos and how their features differ, > so all I'm going to say is that I identify mine with what Julio has as masken > over his winkelfleck. > > -- Randy > > Jota Melgar wrote: > > > Randy, > > > > Take a look at the following links and compare them to your fish. Forget > > about the metallic blue colors on the "Winkelfleck". It's better if you > > compare it to one of your bigger males. > > > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jsmelgar/images/Amasken.jpg > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jsmelgar/images/winkel1.jpg > > > > Julio > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!