Mike, Thanks a lot! Not exactly what I had expected, but maybe the lyretail comes with age. Either way, i'm thinking about ordering a pair. Could you give me an idea of the water conditions your trio is in? I just got a bunch of wild bitaeniata yesterday that are in a 15g, but I have room for another 15g or I have space in the 29g. Only thing is, is the 29g houses a trio of zebra plecos and some rummynose tetras so the temp is in the mid-upper 80s. Usually runs 86-88. Thanks again. Steve _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!