In a message dated 04/10/00 15:54:39 GMT Daylight Time, m.gallade@jdneuhaus.com writes: > no flames please- some Discus(at 82 Deg.F) instead of Angels? I would always go with Discus rather than Angels in a tank containing Neons or other small tetras - some people say Angels don't eat neons, my Angels (even quite small ones) have. My last pair of Angels used to eat Rummynose tetras. If you have a densley planted tank you will need a plant-friendly algae cleanup squad - Ancistrus spp and Otocinclus are good. A shoal of >10 Otocinclus would look nice too - I have a shoal of 6 and the shoal really closely and are always active. Whichever tetras you decide to go with pick only two spp. and get large shoals >20. I think Cardinals and Glowlights make a nice combination with Dwarf cichlids although if your intention is to save cichlid fry and keep them with the parents I think pencilfish are the only safe characin dithers. Just to add to your list I have Epiplatys annulatus (Rocket Panchax) and Trichopsis pygmaeus/vitattus (Pygmy Croaking Gouramis) as Dithers with 'cacutoides and they are great and don't eat fry! Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!