Hi all, I picked up some nice Discus at a Discus farm in my area a few month ack.( I couldn't resist I wanted to visit the place for years) The owner told me that he uses crushed Maple leafs ,that he picks up in the fall around his property ,instead of peat to condition his water for his breeding tanks.He claimed that the leafs have more humic acids than peat therefore work better. Anyone ever tried this? My Maple tree is starting to color up and I have a large garbage bag ready to be filled up with leafs. Max ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!