Ok i've got a question, with all these new species ppl keep talking about, ie lyretail panduro, sp cara pinta, sp miua and others, where can i find more info on them? Is there any literature out there with info on them yet? If so, where can i get ahold of it? Thanks John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!