IMO why not cross colors to see what results? The colors are not "natural" anyway. You might get an interesting looking male. I have the "wild" form that is not flashy, but subtle colors including blue. Have fun and tell us what you get. dave - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!