Hi Mike Just to cloud the issue, the female is now showing a strong lateral band (which continues through the tail). The suborbital stripe is now much stronger, as are the metallic blue striations around the head. I guess she's settling in. ps - I think in my previous post I mentioned V shaped lateral bands. This should of course read "vertical" bands Thanks a million Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!