I have been in quite regular contact with a plant keeper in Chatanooga TN who would like to join this list but hasn't been able. As a result I'm posting on her behalf and hope that she gets herself on here as soon as possible. Her name is Teresa and her e-mail address is TD7894@aol.com if anyone would like to answer direct. Thanks for your understanding in advance. The principle thing she is having trouble locating any Rams in her area and she's also looking for Cacatoos / Apistos. She asked me for anybody within 24hrs delivery time because of fears about the cold etc. Can anybody help? Does anybody know of any breeders or dealers in the area? I suggested Dave(???) Juarez as a supplier (I know he's in CA, but I'd expect him to be more aware than many of shipping difficulties). TIA I'll forward any answers to Teresa C:-)lin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!