Sylvia Kohler wrote: > > Second question--I'm thinking she's never going to get this right, and I > should pull the eggs. I already have the lone survivor in the net breeder, > with java moss and frogbit. It's large enough at this point for microworms. > I am wondering whether I should move the eggs in with it, once they've done > the deed. Any ideas? > > (These are tank bred and raised rather than wild.) > > So, is the pH an issue? Secondly, are there just some fish that never quite > get the parenting thing? or wait it out? I would approximate that they have > been breeding for perhaps 3 months or so all told, and for about a month in > this tank. hi sylvia i dont think any one has a definitive answer as to why females eat their eggs/wrigglers, I had the following experience with a female agassizi. The pair were on their own ina a breeding tank and would have spawned more than 10 times. Apart from 2 times when I pulled the wrigglers and raised them myself she ate every single spawn at about 5 days. eventually i decided she was a "bad mother" and put the pair back into a community tank. about october last year the fish went through a spawning frenzy in that tank and the female agassizi was no exception. she had 2 spawns and both times raised the fry and looked after them perfectly for at least 2 weeks free swimming, then the rest of the fish in the tank got to them, but she and the male did a fabulous job the differences between the two environments were - many more fish in the community tank, whether they were competition, a greater threat or a made here feel safer I dont know. Did she learn by example from the spawning gibbiceps? (a bit far fetched i think) - the pH was much lower. community tank was pH 5.0 and the breeding tank was pH6.5 - the size of spawns was much higher, breeding tank was <15 fry every time, community tank the 1st spawn was approx 20 -30 and the 2nd was over 50, well I actually removed over 50 7 day old fry and she still had some remaining. if you are finding small fry, then I think this is a promising sign. maybe introduce another fish as a target fish to raise the maternal protective instincts until she works out what she has to do. hope this helps steph ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, email@example.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email firstname.lastname@example.org. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!