I am an extreme newbie. I have a male Ram and am increasingly fascinated by the dwarf cichlids and am looking forward to obtaining some more rams in the spring. I hope to try other fish in the apisto group. My ram is in a planted tank and seems quite happy. The dh is 4 but my PH is 7.4 and I cannot seem to lower it with peat in the filter. I am afraid to use the chemical decreasers that are available. What can I use to slowly decrease my Ph? Are any of the products available safe? Please give me some advice. Teresa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!