Jst thought I 'd chime in, too. My name is Brian Bergoetz, I've kept fish for about ten years, always cichlids. I rn a pet store for a yar or so ad have since moved on. I'm sick of africans nd have never uderstood the infatuation with thm. Ive gone through burn out a few times so these days I'm a little cautious abot going too crazy. Right now I'm down to three tanks, species include nigerian reds, altispinosa, checkerboards, blue rams and pucallpaensis. I used to think I know a lot about keeping fish, but when I start to think that I screw up. I just got 6 pucallpaensis, made a feeding mistake and now I have 2. Always learning, just hope I don't kill any along the way. I do love the format and topic here. It's the only reason I use the computer these days. By the way, if anyone is near NE Indiana contact me off list ifyou want to trade. I look forward to adding what I can to the group. bb ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!