Sorry, it was a typo for pH. It is around 6 pH, not 8. The fish have plenty of caves, including with wide shallow entrance made of coconut shel, and some flower pots. A lot of java moss. Some females even seem to love caves, but not once they had a spawn! -----Original Message----- From: NaturalDTP@aol.com To: apisto@listbox.com Sent: 02/23/2001 6:01 AM Subject: Re: Cacatoos question In a message dated 23/02/01 04:19:01 GMT Standard Time, Lilia.Stepanova@stjude.org writes: > For some reason it does not work with cacatoos. > Any insight? water is ~8 pH, hardness ~ 50 ppm. Although I have heard of cacutoides breeding at pH 7.8 and med-hard water. My Apisto tanks are all at 5.0-5.8 and almost no hardness which seems to work for most Apistos except borelli. With cacatoides one requirement is sufficient suitable breeding sites for the females - very low caves with a wide shallow entrance, perhaps this is the trigger they need. Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!