Re: Pictures of A. sp. Rio Malome

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Scott,

If you go back into the Apisto List archives regarding this species, there's
always been a lot of confusion. I've only seen one specimen of this fish, at the
ACA convention last year. It was in a bare tank, of course, but the dark marking
were most like "A. sp. Mamore Blue" pictured in Matuzaka's Japanese book "The
Aquarium 2300 Atlas" (p.117). We know that A. sp. Malome was originally listed by
a Japanese backed exporter in Brazil. We assume (see archives) that "Malome" is a
mispronunciation of Mamoré [Mamoré to Maromé]. Since the sound "r" is not common
in the Japanese language where "r" is commonly replaced with an "l" sound, Maromé
was eventually changed to "Malomé or Malome since no one uses special characters
on computers anymore. All of this is circumstantial, of course, but without
seeing both Mamoré Blue & Malome side-by-side one can't be absolutely positive.
But for now I'm comfortable with the ID. I don't consider my ID absolute,
however, and it's always subject to future correction if needed. You have a
perfect right to  use any name that you prefer.

Mike Wise

Scott Olson wrote:

> I'm pretty certain that the fish Max has is different than what I've seen
> labeled as 'Malome'.  The fish that Justin had in his shop in S.F. were
> heavier and had distinctively thin (almost recessed?) lips - at least they
> were very noticeably the thinnest lips I'd ever seen on an apistogramma - or
> probably on any cichlid.  Kind of unique-looking.  They really didn't look a
> whole lot like resticulosa, which Max's fish does.  And they all had orange
> (the males) on the caudal, but of course that don't mean a whole lot...
>
> It's been quite a few months now, so it's hard to remember all the details
> for sure.
>
> Of course, as has been said before, it's always possible that there are
> several forms out there that get labeled as 'Malome'...sometimes the world
> (especially the apisto world) is just too confusing!
>
> Every time someone posts regarding this fish, I wish again that I'd brought
> some of these fish home!!  I'd send some to Mike and maybe we could finally
> figure out what they are.  Or aren't.  Or something.
>
> Scott
>
> >From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
> >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> >To: apisto@listbox.com
> >Subject: Re: Pictures of A. sp. Rio Malome
> >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 15:56:15 -0700
> >
> >You're right, Patrick, the tail is rounded. Max's
> >photo on the ASG web page looks squared off
> >because of the shadows and angle of the tail, it's
> >curved back on itself. I've also seen "Malome"
> >with an orange tail, but this isn't important for
> >ID purposes.
> >
> >Mike Wise
> >
> >CaptnPATSG3F@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >  I have A. sp. Rio Malome and I am hesitant to
> > > call the two the same. The
> > > tail on Malome is more rounded.  Maybe they are
> > > the same but I don't know for
> > > now I'm going to keep the two names separate.
> > >
> > > Patrick Claytor
> >
> >
> >
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