Francine, With all those tanks, have you ever considered bying your own distiller or an RO unit? I think it would be worth. On photography, it seems to me that is the same thing that happened to me with parrots (birds, OT sorry), I had at once 72 breeding pairs, now I can't maintain more than 4 pairs and a few youngsters so I'm building my collection in my HP :-) Greetings, Zeco (Sao Paulo - Brasil) (http://sites.netscape.net/zecocarvalho/ ) -----Mensagem Original----- De: "FBethea" <FRANCINEBETHEA@excite.com> Para: <apisto@listbox.com> Enviada em: terça-feira, 6 de março de 2001 21:04 Assunto: Re: Acclimating to "normal" water conditions ... I do have success with getting my apistos to spawn, but it becomes a headache doing water changes. Before I bought this house and expanded my fishroom to 27 tanks, I used distilled water for changes. But with the amount of tanks I have now, hauling in distilled water at 89 cents a bottle would be inane. I sometimes go in the fishroom and just stand there and wonder what the hell am I doing this all for. Yet, the c barbatus spawned, the bristlenose spawned ,all the apistos and the killis. Unfortunantly, my fry survival rate has fallen off and I am greatly discouraged. I have been photographing my fish and others and have been successful. Maybe that is what I should be doing instead of maintaining and breeding species that I am unable to perpetuate. Ready to sell out, Francine ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!