hi francine, where are you from? I think that it is great that you got your c.barabtus to spawn, i love them as well! Let me know by personnal mail what's going on. c you FLI USA Yvan Alleau 712 Kings boulevard 97330 Corvallis, Oregon home # 738-0606 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! yalleau@oce.orst.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" ----- Original Message ----- From: "FBethea" <FRANCINEBETHEA@excite.com> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: Re: Acclimating to "normal" water conditions > My tap water is 8.5 with dH coming in at 63 ppms. I am so frustrated at > this point that I have considered raising Africans. Actually bought > brichardi and n. mealagris and then realized that I will have to modify for > their water changes as well. > > I do have success with getting my apistos to spawn, but it becomes a > headache doing water changes. Before I bought this house and expanded my > fishroom to 27 tanks, I used distilled water for changes. But with the > amount of tanks I have now, hauling in distilled water at 89 cents a bottle > would be inane. I sometimes go in the fishroom and just stand there and > wonder what the hell am I doing this all for. Yet, the c barbatus spawned, > the bristlenose spawned ,all the apistos and the killis. Unfortunantly, my > fry survival rate has fallen off and I am greatly discouraged. > > I have been photographing my fish and others and have been successful. Maybe > that is what I should be doing instead of maintaining and breeding species > that I am unable to perpetuate. > > Ready to sell out, > Francine > > > > On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0700, apisto@listbox.com wrote: > > > Francine, > > > > I don't consider anything liquid with a pH 8.5 water; that's more like > liquid > > cement! If your water has an equally high carbonate hardness (alkalinity) > then I > > would definitely mix the tap water with softer water. Some apistos will > handle > > living in your tap water, but I doubt that blackwater species will. > > > > BTW the elizabethae Içana male is now over 3" SL with lots of red on the > body. > > Let me know when you want him. > > > > Mike Wise > > > > FBethea wrote: > > > > > I am curiuos to learn how people on the list go about acclimating their > fish > > > to normal water conditions. > > > > > > My tap water is 8.5 and the rain water is 6.0. Will I have to mix the > rain > > > water with tap until I get 7.0 thereabouts? > > > > > > Francine > > > > > > Fish - Photography - Genealogy > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! > > > Fish - Photography - Genealogy > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!