Hello All, I don't post often, but just to introduce myself; I'm a marine biol graduate, biological illustrator and lecturer in wildlife interpretation. I am in the lucky position that my tapwater here in North Wales (UK) is (after standing) pH 5.8 and less than 0.25 DH and zero nitrate. Curently I'm working with; Dicrossus filamentosus - these must be the slowest growing fry I've ever seen - only 35mm after 6 months. 100% survival rate, evenly sized brood of about 60. A. nijsenni - once they start breeding you can't stop them can you? A. hongsloi I - two pairs both breeding constantly, excellent parents too - bringing a brood through A. cacutoides - I finally got a nice unrelated triple-red male for six very desperate females - four with eggs or fry now A. trifaciata - it turned out only one of eight juvenilles I bought was female - had a surprise brood in the 'growing on' community tank will be basis of breeding scheme. A. norberti - breeding but keep eating the eggs. This pair is old - male is 3.5 inches long - I may have to raise them artificially before the parents die. Rams - the F0 fry from my old wild breeding pair - keep laying eggs in a community tank, don't have the space to bring a batch of fry through yet (damn those checkerboards :-) ) Non-cichlids breeding; honey gouramis, cardinals, Hypessobrycon robertsi As far as books are concerned the English translation of Uwe Romers new book is available at the natural history museum bookshop http://www.nhbs.co.uk/ on pre-publish order (release date due June 2001). They ship worldwide at cost. Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!