I was quite certain that I had A. pertensis but I spoke with Dr. Sven Kullander two years ago and he thought the subject was tricky. I interpreted that as if it wasn't so easy to tell A. pertensis from other similar species as I had thought. Like you say Mike, it is probably just normal variations within a species and not enought to warrant separation. /Fredrik > > A. pertensis is a fairly easy species to identify. The main problem most > people have with this species is the variability in the number of rows of > spots on the tail fin. The holotype shows a fish with only 5 or 6 rows. There > are photos of fish with 10 or more rows. This has confused hobbyists in the > past. Are these different species? Probably not. It appears that the number > of spot rows increase with the size of the fish to some extent. The male A. > pertensis in Linke & Staeck matches the holotype quite closely. So do most of > the photos listed as "A. pertensis" in the Aqualog book (p.55). The form > labeled "A. cf. pertensis" on the same page appears to be a different form > (species?). It is more elongate, with longer extensions on the dorsal, anal, > and ventral fins. The caudal fin appears to be longer, too. Could these only > be extremely old aquarium specimens of A. pertensis? I'm not sure. > > Mike Wise > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!