Mike, I'm a bit late on this (had a week of for spring break), but didn't see any response to you question. Juvenile males of most apistos will have some black on their pectorals. This will eventually fade out. I've always had problems with young panduros. Personally, I'd wait until the male colors show just to be sure. Mike Wise Mike Chappell wrote: > Thanks in advance for reading, > > I have a tank full of Panduro Juv's about 1"+ , I was looking at the tank > and noticing the lower fins which in the adults the female carry's teh balck > rays, and the male a yellow. When @ 1" or so id the fins are showing a black > ray are those females for sure? Or will males be balck and fade out as older > the get. Thanks again for anyone familiar. > > Mike > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!