Re: do fish "yawn"?

["Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU>]

hi rick,
well, knowing that you have 2 tanks i would consider that over in
desinfecting them and doing them again. Meanwhile, maybe you can keep your
fish in a tank without substrate sothat you're not providing hosts to
whatever cause your fish to die in the case that they have a "larva or egg
stage". Then, if the story still goes on, think about treating your fish
with medication. Couldn't the fact that you describe your fish as gasping be
due to worms or other parasites on their gills?
But the only sure way, knowing that you have a high mortality percentage, is
saddly to kill all of them and start on new basis. Sorry, but sometime it is
necessary.
hope that helps.
good luck
                        FLI USA

Yvan Alleau
712 Kings boulevard
97330 Corvallis, Oregon
home # 738-0606
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
yalleau@oce.orst.edu

"When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Vandiver" <mrriketts@ynn.com>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: do fish "yawn"?


> I have a planted tank 55 gallon and a 20 that has a few plants in it but
Friday
> is the SFAS meeting .
>
> Yvan Alleau wrote:
>
> > hi rick,
> > do you have the problem in all your tanks? how are they (ie planted,
> > nude...)?
> >
> >                         FLI USA
> >
> > Yvan Alleau
> > 712 Kings boulevard
> > 97330 Corvallis, Oregon
> > home # 738-0606
> > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > Oregon State University
> > office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely !
> > yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> >
> > "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the
essential"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rik Vandiver" <mrriketts@ynn.com>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: do fish "yawn"?
> >
> > > I don't think that it is ich. the temperature in my tanks is over 80
> > degrees . I
> > > have an average  mortality rate of  33% of any new fish that I bring
into
> > the
> > > system.
> > > I don't think that "{you guy's}" are sending out sick fish to me in
the
> > mail . I
> > > have had this problem for a lot longer than I have been buying fish
over
> > the
> > > net.  I had given up treating this problem a long time ago but
apisto's
> > cost
> > > more than regular cichlids and it is very upsetting to see your new
> > "little
> > > jewels" gasping for oxygen then dying . Any other suggestions would be
> > greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > >                       Peace And Freedom
> > >
> > > sal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Look close if they have ich..(for ich I have a different cure with
no
> > > > medicine). otherwise what has worked for me is Formaldehyde 15%.. be
> > careful
> > > > and follow directions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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