couldn't agree more Ken, My first few tanks were disasters! I remember, my first one was a 30 long... I literally PACKED it with all sorts of fish! I had enough ammonia to strip the floor with! Rich Ken Roese wrote: > > List Memebers, > This thread is bringing back memories that I had hoped I had supressed. > How many of us out there, with one of our first tanks, went through exactly > what Jeremy is? Uncompatible fish, too many fish too soon, enough algae to > choke a goat on our first serious plant tanks, etc. (I for one have not got > the algae thing licked yet...grrr). I remember how pretty I thought Jack > Dempseys were and their colors would really go nicely with my tetras in my > first 20g. Needless to say, fat Jack Dempsey and missing tetras were the > results. I decided to learn which fish were compatable. Then I got to > reading about how different fish live in different levels of the tank. So, > onto my next catastrophy. 5 danios (top level), 10 Cardinals (mid-level), > 5 corycats and a couple loaches (bottom feeders), and 3 angelfish to fill > out the middle and upper levels since the dainios and tetras didn't take up > much space. All the fish seemed happy, when I could see them through the > always cloudy water. Since I tore the tank down and started over after the > Dempsey mess, I was cycling a tank with 20+ fish...at least the cory cats > survived, so in my mind in wasn't a total loss. Where was this list in > 1980 when I could have used it... > Maybe by my telling the world this can act as a therapy and the nightmares > will stop ;) > > Jeremy, > Welcome to our world ;) I'm sure almost all of us have been in the same > boat at one time or another. It is part of the learning curve to > maintaining a well running system. The only advice I can offer is read > this list and some good books. You will find that everyone has their own > opinions on how it should be done or how it works for them. You'll have to > figure out what works for you, using the above resources as starting points > and general guidelines. There are some very knowledgable and helpful people > in here, I'm sure you'll be up and running in no time. Good luck. > > Ken > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!