From: Mike Jacobs Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 7:37 PM > Dave..............you'll have one fat, happy dwarf-pike > left..............trust me! I use to every now and then > see Vinny Kutty's pike tanks when they were feeding >.........NO CHANCE!!!..............;-) This is the "kid in the candy store" response I expect for at least the first ten minutes, anyway ;-) > The pikes are true predators, not just fish that eat fish > that happen to wander by! I'd give the odds at 2-1 that > they wouldn't last 2 weeks. Ah, see - that's where finding the balance comes in. I'd like a predator that is a threat to the matured Apisto as well as the fry, but not one that constantly consumes its weight in prey every 24 hours. If there's one that hunts like the larger carnivors - swallow a fish and take three days to digest it before getting hungry again - Lionfish comes to mind in the marine world. Balance that against an easily bred, fairly capable, fuller bodied Apisto like Borelli. > I really don't think you have ever seen a pike when > he's hungry.......talk about efficient killers! Hence the query for a reference of some sort. But a compendium of experience would serve the same function. For instance, Ken Roese's note on C. Regani behavior brings up one possibility. It doesn't sound as though the Aggies and Thomasis had too much of a problem (fry loss is certainly acceptable in my case - I'm more used to letting them fend for themselves anyway to prevent being overrun). But he doesn't mention if they were raised together or what the Pike's normal diet is. The specific type of hunting behavior isn't (or doesn't seem) critical. If it's an ambush hunter, that's certainly not a problem, although I might could see (apologies to the English major/grad) how a constantly- prowling free- ranger might be a little too disruptive. If an occasional burst of speed would net 'em a Tetra or two, that would be OK, but even a 10-ft tank wouldn't keep a Zebra Danio from darting around like its tail's on fire ;-) Of course, it doesn't have to be a Pike at all - that was just the first thing to jump off the keyboard. And if they're not too ravenous and not too territorial, than perhaps even a pair of somethings or others. Hopefully not a _breeding_ pair, though... So yeah, I'm open to ideas - wide open... -Y- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!