Re: Apisto Predators

["Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>]

Hey Dave...............I really appreciate guys who think, share and talk
and go against the norm to see if it will work..........it would be really
nifty to see such a thing work........I'd like to see you start with
something other than a pike though................;-)

Mike

Mike Jacobs
Center for Advanced Technologies
Lakewood H.S.
St Pete, Fl  33705
mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David A. Youngker" <nestor10@mindspring.com>
To: "Apistogramma Mailing List" <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Apisto Predators


> From: Mike Jacobs
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 7:37 PM
>
> > Dave..............you'll have one fat, happy dwarf-pike
> > left..............trust me!  I use to every now and then
> > see Vinny Kutty's pike tanks when they were feeding
> >.........NO CHANCE!!!..............;-)
>
> This is the "kid in the candy store" response I expect for at least the
> first ten minutes, anyway  ;-)
>
> > The pikes are true predators, not just fish that eat fish
> > that happen to wander by!  I'd give the odds at 2-1 that
> > they wouldn't last 2 weeks.
>
> Ah, see - that's where finding the balance comes in.
>
> I'd like a predator that is a threat to the matured Apisto as well as the
> fry, but not one that constantly consumes its weight in prey every 24
hours.
> If there's one that hunts like the larger carnivors - swallow a fish and
> take three days to digest it before getting hungry again - Lionfish comes
to
> mind in the marine world.
>
> Balance that against an easily bred, fairly capable, fuller bodied Apisto
> like Borelli.
>
> > I really don't think you have ever seen a pike when
> > he's hungry.......talk about efficient killers!
>
> Hence the query for a reference of some sort. But a compendium of
experience
> would serve the same function.
>
> For instance, Ken Roese's note on C. Regani behavior brings up one
> possibility. It doesn't sound as though the Aggies and Thomasis had too
much
> of a problem (fry loss is certainly acceptable in my case - I'm more used
to
> letting them fend for themselves anyway to prevent being overrun). But he
> doesn't mention if they were raised together or what the Pike's normal
diet
> is.
>
> The specific type of hunting behavior isn't (or doesn't seem) critical. If
> it's an ambush hunter, that's certainly not a problem, although I might
> could see (apologies to the English major/grad) how a constantly- prowling
> free- ranger might be a little too disruptive. If an occasional burst of
> speed would net 'em a Tetra or two, that would be OK, but even a 10-ft
tank
> wouldn't keep a Zebra Danio from darting around like its tail's on fire
;-)
>
> Of course, it doesn't have to be a Pike at all - that was just the first
> thing to jump off the keyboard. And if they're not too ravenous and not
too
> territorial, than perhaps even a pair of somethings or others. Hopefully
not
> a _breeding_ pair, though...
>
> So yeah, I'm open to ideas - wide open...
>
> -Y-
>
>
>
>
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